Torah observance for Gentiles.

A place to discuss what it means to serve G-d for those who don't happen to be Jewish.

Hassidic Gentile? Ben/Bat Noach? Whatever you call yourself, you are welcome.
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Re: Torah observance for Gentiles.

Postby Kira » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:49 pm

I guess a Hassidic Gentile is one who goes beyond the letter of the law, in the old definition of "Hassid".

If so, the Original Post is very much in line with that thinking.

It could also mean one who has a rebbe and a tzaddik to guide him... but that's not happening so much, is it.. wherever Devon is...

Can one have a virtual rebbe?

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Re: Torah observance for Gentiles.

Postby just-me » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:12 pm

Maria, Hart,

is there any chance you will be able to move sometime?

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that which must not, can not be.

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Re: Torah observance for Gentiles.

Postby Hart60 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:27 pm

Kira wrote:I guess a Hassidic Gentile is one who goes beyond the letter of the law, in the old definition of "Hassid".
If so, the Original Post is very much in line with that thinking.

Thanks Kira, yes and that I prefer it to being called Noahide,remember the discussion we had about it on the old forum ?
Kira wrote:It could also mean one who has a rebbe and a tzaddik to guide him... but that's not happening so much, is it..
Well except for you kind selfs of course.
Kira wrote:wherever Devon is...

Bit about Devon here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devon
Kira wrote:Can one have a virtual rebbe?
-Kira

I would be happy to, not sure if it would work though.

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Re: Torah observance for Gentiles.

Postby Hart60 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:31 pm

just-me wrote:Maria, Hart,
is there any chance you will be able to move sometime?
just-me

Not me, I'm to old to uproot now also have the family to consider.

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Re: Torah observance for Gentiles.

Postby martinbrody » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:24 am

Hart60 wrote:Hi Martin,
Aberdeen !! no bey, uz iz down yer in deepest Devon. Lol.
descendant of the Plymouth Harts.


Hart.


Oh silly me. Now I remember.
I know of 4 Synagogues in Devon. Three of which are Orthodox!

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Re: Torah observance for Gentiles.

Postby Hart60 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:40 pm

Thanks Martin,
I didn't know there are four synagogues in Devon, where are they, my nearest is Exeter which is about 90 mins drive from home.

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Re: Torah observance for Gentiles.

Postby Yisroelp » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:01 pm

Hart60 wrote:Thanks Martin,
I didn't know there are four synagogues in Devon, where are they, my nearest is Exeter which is about 90 mins drive from home.

Dan.


Try here http://www.jewishgen.org/JCR-UK/england_alphabetical.htm and search for "devon" on the page.
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Re: Torah observance for Gentiles.

Postby Hart60 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:33 pm

Thanks Yisroelp,
I see there is mention of a community in Ilfracombe North Devon which would be quite close to me but sadly it closed in 1945, I remember reading about them in The Susser Archives, most of the community came here as part of the war effort along with American service personnel.
Exeter would still be the closest to me.
There's a bit about Jewish communities and Synagogues in Devon here - http://www.jewishgen.org/JCR-UK/susser/ ... ations.htm
which you may find interesting.
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Re: Torah observance for Gentiles.

Postby martinbrody » Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:43 pm

Hart60 wrote:Thanks Martin,
I didn't know there are four synagogues in Devon, where are they, my nearest is Exeter which is about 90 mins drive from home.

Dan.


There's Plymouth, of course. And Exeter. Both buildings are gorgeous.
I'm not sure if Torquay is still operating. They used to offer a flat for a week to any visitor who can read from the Torah and give a sermon on Shabbat! I did talk to them about it once, but the travel plans didn't work out (My son would have done the Torah reading part)
Then there is a Reform congregation in Totnes of all places, at the end of the River Dart.
Even Cornwall has a community too.
Amazing.

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Re: Torah observance for Gentiles.

Postby Hart60 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:31 pm

Yes indeed, mostly in Falmouth because of the trade going on there I guess,Lemon Hart was a famous Rum trader,supplied the Navy I believe, Jews would come in from Europe to Plymouth and either settle there or migrate from there,some to America and others through the UK, my ancestors stayed in Devon but moved upwards to Mid Devon,around Exeter,Hemyock and eventually North Devon,there are still members of the Hart family living in Plymouth.

History of Plymouth Synagogue - http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/susser/plymstory.htm

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