Gentiles wearing Tallit Gadol.

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Re: Gentiles wearing Tallit Gadol.

Postby Yisroelp » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:47 am

Hart60 wrote:Shabbat Shalom,
Maybe there should be rainbow coloured Tallis for gentiles to wear during prayers on Shabbos.

Good Shabbos.


Such taleisim already exist in America. See for example http://www.eichlers.com/garments/tallits-talleisim/talis-bnei-ohr-comes-with-bag-and-kipa.html
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Re: Gentiles wearing Tallit Gadol.

Postby martinbrody » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:24 pm

Hart60 wrote:Do you mean the "Robe of light" or as a symbol of gay pride ?


Robe of Light? What's that? Sounds a bit too mystical. Nothing mystical about a talli. It's fringes are a visible reminder of Mitzvot.
We have a couple of Gay Synagogues in LA. I'll stroll over and check them out to see if there are any rainbow tallitot,
(There's no such thing as tallisim!), either side of the mechitzah. Oh wait a minute, Purim was last week!
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Re: Gentiles wearing Tallit Gadol.

Postby Hart60 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:59 pm

Gay Synagogues ! really ? - I was going to buy a rainbow kippot as I thought it would be more suitable for a Bnei Noach until I read it was a symbol of gay pride, :( .

Robe of light here - http://www.tallit-shop.com/bnei-ohr-tallis-rainbow/

Can one buy prayer shawls without Tzitzit ?
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Re: Gentiles wearing Tallit Gadol.

Postby David_L » Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:14 pm

You can buy a tallit without the tzitzit. For example: http://www.hasofer.com/page.pl?p=talisstandard (I haven't bought anything from this particular store, so I'm not necessarily recommending it.)

You may be able to find more favourable prices.

Why not ask a rabbi at your synagogue for advice? He could probably give you more accurate information in regard to local customs, which do vary from community to community.
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Re: Gentiles wearing Tallit Gadol.

Postby Hart60 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:08 pm

Thanks for the link David, I've PM'd you with details of the shul.
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Re: Gentiles wearing Tallit Gadol.

Postby Yisroelp » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:04 pm

Hart60 wrote:Can one buy prayer shawls without Tzitzit ?


I have often bought a talit gadol [prayer shawl] or talit katan [the garment with tzitzit that one wears under one's shirt] plus a much better quality set of tzitzit than are tied onto the talit. I have then removed the tzitzit on the talit and tied the better quality ones on myself.
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Re: Gentiles wearing Tallit Gadol.

Postby rivka » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:18 pm

Hart60 wrote:Do you mean the "Robe of light" or as a symbol of gay pride ?
The latter. There are already various groups that use a rainbow "tallis" for such a purpose. There are also "progressive" sects that use rainbow-colored talleisim.
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Re: Gentiles wearing Tallit Gadol.

Postby Hart60 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:07 am

rivka wrote:
Hart60 wrote:Do you mean the "Robe of light" or as a symbol of gay pride ?
The latter. There are already various groups that use a rainbow "tallis" for such a purpose. There are also "progressive" sects that use rainbow-colored talleisim.
Yes, I certainly wouldn't like to give that impression rivka.
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Re: Gentiles wearing Tallit Gadol.

Postby ess76 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:30 pm

A talleth is just a piece of cloth, nothing more, nothing less. It is equivalent to wearing a shirt. Wearing one without tsitsiyyoth serve no purpose whatsoever.

As for wearing one with tsitsiyyoth on the fringes, I see no reason why you should wear one, since you are not commanded in mitswoth. You are not commanded to wear tsitsiyyoth on your garments. Wearing a talleth is not about appearing more "religious" or "frum", it is to remember the commandments which God has given Israel, so that we do them. What would the benefit of wearing them be?

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Re: Gentiles wearing Tallit Gadol.

Postby ess76 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:31 pm

I have heard that in Yemen they had multicolored tallethoth, not too long ago. About 150 years ago, someone brought over some tallethoth from Israel with black stripes, and the Jews in Yemen liked them, so they switched.
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