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Parsha Noach

Postby Hart60 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:29 pm

In Bereishit Chapter 6 Noach is commanded to take a pair of each living thing on to the Ark with him -

"19. And of all living things of all flesh, two of each you shall bring into the ark to preserve alive with you; they shall be male and female.
20. Of the fowl after its kind and of the animals after their kind, of every creeping thing upon the ground after its kind; two of each shall come to you to preserve alive.
"

then in Chapter 7 he is commanded to take 7 pairs of animals that are clean for himself -

"2. Of all the clean animals you shall take for yourself seven pairs, a male and its mate,
and of the animals that are not clean, two, a male and its mate.
"

Is Hashem commanding Noach to eat Kosher ?

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Re: Parsha Noach

Postby rivka » Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:48 am

No. After they disembarked, Noach brought sacrifices. Foreseeing that, Hashem ensured extras of the kosher animals. (Non-kosher ones are not appropriate for sacrifices.)
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Re: Parsha Noach

Postby martinbrody » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:23 am

From this verse Rashi says that Noah knew the Torah.
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Re: Parsha Noach

Postby Hart60 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:43 am

Thanks Rivka and Martin for your replies.
Rivka - Wouldn't Hashem have instructed Noach either directly or indirectly to set aside animals for the specific purpose of sacrifice,the text states that the clean animals are specifically for Noach (himself).

Martin - Yes ,I guess Noach would have known what was clean to eat and what was not at that time, so in a way Hashem has given us a knowledge of what is "Kosher" by instinct.

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Re: Parsha Noach

Postby David_L » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:51 am

Hart60 wrote:Wouldn't Hashem have instructed Noach either directly or indirectly to set aside animals for the specific purpose of sacrifice,the text states that the clean animals are specifically for Noach (himself).


The translation for Genesis 8:20 in the Kehot Chumash, which I think is interpolated based on Rashi's commentary, from http://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/757296/jewish/Interpolated-Translation.htm is:

Noah correctly intuited that God had commanded him to take an additional number of ritually pure animals to offer them as sacrifices when he left the ark. So he built an altar to God. He took some of every species of ritually pure livestock and of every kind of ritually pure bird, and he offered them up as ascent-offerings on the altar. An ascent-offering is one in which the meat of the animal is entirely consumed by fire on an altar.


Also, here's Rashi's commentary on that verse from http://www.chabad.org/parshah/torahreading.asp?aid=9168&showrashi=true&p=complete:

of all the clean animals: He said,“The Holy One, blessed be He, commanded me to take in seven pairs of these only in order to offer up a sacrifice from them.” - [from Tan. Vayakhel 6, Gen. Rabbah 34:9]
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Re: Parsha Noach

Postby rivka » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:28 am

Hart60 wrote:Rivka - Wouldn't Hashem have instructed Noach either directly or indirectly to set aside animals for the specific purpose of sacrifice,the text states that the clean animals are specifically for Noach (himself).

Indirectly is exactly what he did.

You read that as meaning "for you to eat". But Noach knew better, and understood what Hashem was actually alluding to.

Remember, a sacrifice is not for Hashem -- He has no need of our offerings. A sacrifice is for the sake of the person bringing it, so saying take "for yourself" is quite right, if indirect.
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Re: Parsha Noach

Postby Hart60 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:05 pm

Many thanks to you all for your replies, I have a much clearer understanding of this now.

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Re: Parsha Noach

Postby steve » Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:44 pm

Hi Dan,
Noticed you haven't posted for a while. How are things going ?

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Re: Parsha Noach

Postby Hart60 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:13 pm

Hi Steve,
Yea I'm fine, thanks for asking, I hope you are well.
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Re: Parsha Noach

Postby steve » Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:54 pm

Fine thanks, good to hear from you.

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