If a person believes in God and accepts the good and "bad" with Gratitude, where is freewill?
Is the only freewill to accept or not to accept God's will ?
Emuna - Everything comes from God
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2. No politics.
3. No bashing other religions, but it is ok to discuss how a Ben Noach might relate to other religions.
4. NO MISSIONARIES! Not even for Karaites.
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Emuna - Everything comes from God
by steve » Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:49 pm
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Re: Emuna - Everything comes from God
by David_L » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:04 pm
Steve, I'm not sure what you mean.
The issue of free will versus Divine providence (hashgacha, in Hebrew) is something I don't understand well myself.
Here are some articles on free will: http://www.askmoses.com/en/list/253/Phi ... hoice.html
Do any of those help?
The issue of free will versus Divine providence (hashgacha, in Hebrew) is something I don't understand well myself.
Here are some articles on free will: http://www.askmoses.com/en/list/253/Phi ... hoice.html
Do any of those help?
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Re: Emuna - Everything comes from God
by steve » Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:51 am
Thanks David,
I was thinking along the lines of no one can help or harm without G-d allowing. A person is completely indebted to G-d for all his graces, we all belong to G-d.
If a person gets hurt or humiliated the reaction is normally to get angry and react.
If it is Hashem who sends the person to hurt and humiliate and we belong to Hashem and are completely indebted to him for his graces then to get angry with someone who was sent by G-d is not logical.
Steve
I was thinking along the lines of no one can help or harm without G-d allowing. A person is completely indebted to G-d for all his graces, we all belong to G-d.
If a person gets hurt or humiliated the reaction is normally to get angry and react.
If it is Hashem who sends the person to hurt and humiliate and we belong to Hashem and are completely indebted to him for his graces then to get angry with someone who was sent by G-d is not logical.
Steve
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