When a Rabbi becomes an idol ?

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When a Rabbi becomes an idol ?

Postby steve » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:48 am

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Re: When a Rabbi becomes an idol ?

Postby David_L » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:08 am

Steve, I'm not sure what advice to give you.

My personal experience with Rabbis isn't much different than yours. The Rabbis I've met personally seem to be more concerned with material needs and political correctness than spirituality. They give priority to keeping their biggest financial supporters happy. That's why I focus on studying the classic texts, acquiring knowledge and practicing religion accordingly.

And being Jewish isn't a panacea. Your viewpoint may be a case of the "grass looking greener on the other side of the fence."
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Re: When a Rabbi becomes an idol ?

Postby steve » Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:38 pm

If only G-d would accept non -Jews without intermediaries. Steve
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Re: When a Rabbi becomes an idol ?

Postby David_L » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:32 am

Why do you think that an intermediary is needed?
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Re: When a Rabbi becomes an idol ?

Postby steve » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:33 am

Thanks David,
I have always thought that the only way to be close to G-d is through Jewish people who are G-d's "light unto the nations"
Does the Torah not say that non-Jews need to be connected to Jewish people ? maybe I'm wrong ?

If I could pray ( I used to do an hour of personal prayer) just to G-d and believe that he is interested in those who are not Jewish it would be the greatest release.


The question which I can't resolve is
does G-d accept me for who I am without a connection to Jewish people.

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Re: When a Rabbi becomes an idol ?

Postby David_L » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:12 am

My understanding is that Jews are obligated to observe the 613 commandments, while non-Jews are obligated to observe the seven Laws of Noah. I don't think that non-Jews have any obligation beyond that. A non-Jew can convert to Judaism, but that's an individual choice, not a requirement.
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Re: When a Rabbi becomes an idol ?

Postby steve » Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:08 pm

Thanks David,
In the Tanya it says even the good non -Jews do is evil. If non-Jews are not capable of true good I can understand why some Jews wouldn't want to associate with us.


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Re: When a Rabbi becomes an idol ?

Postby rivka » Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:27 pm

I would not consider many of the statements the Tanya makes about non-Jews to be reflective of most opinions in mainstream Judaism.
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Re: When a Rabbi becomes an idol ?

Postby steve » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:50 pm

Rivka, I think I'm being punished, I'm only a non-Jew what chance have I to change things.
My mother died of Pancreatic cancer then my wife took breast cancer and now my daughter suffers from anxiety and can't go to school or hardly out of the house.
The greatest punishment to see my family ill and know it's all my fault.
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Re: When a Rabbi becomes an idol ?

Postby rivka » Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:08 pm

While it is true that sometimes Hashem sends us suffering as a punishment, there are many other reasons. Some of the greatest tzadikkim had great suffering. Do you think they were all being punished?

I highly recommend Making Sense of Suffering by the late Rabbi Kirzner.
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